Should I get the P3AT 2006 edition or the new PF9 Luger?
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Should I get the P3AT 2006 edition or the new PF9 Luger?
I have defense in mind. I never shot a Kel-Tec, so I have to rely on my intuition. My intuition says to go with the P3AT right now. It makes noise, and it will buy you some time. It's outright deadly with a genius shot. I can get the chrome with a green stock to match my sunglasses. Yeah. I have doubts that this design can really take a beating beyond 6,000 shots. It makes me wonder how the PF9 and P11 hold together, and so on and so forth. I wonder if the PF9 is going to kick like a school girl versus the near as light P3AT. If ya, then it's just as hard to hit anything no matter what you have. Offense is out the window unless you're a navy seal. So, I'm leaning toward the P3AT because I think it'll hold together a little longer. Also I could try and squeeze this baby next to my squirt gun. So am I crazy going with the P3AT over the PF9 in August of 2006, or were they not what the prescrpition said they were!
Kel-Tac P3AT .380 vs Sig .380
I carry Kel-Tec P3AT .380 for summer months because it's lighter to carry
fully loaded with a extra mag. Something you can't do with the others if you wear shorts with no belt. You'll won't have to worry about your shorts dropping to meet your ankles when walking, if you know what I mean.
Kel-Tec PAT .380 isn't made to shoot 6,000 rounds or more, it's made for deep concealment for personal carry.
Now, if you want a handgun in a .380 that can take 6,000 plus rounds problem free and very accurate out of the box? I found that Sig .380 is outstanding, it's a little heavier in weight then Kel-Tec P3AT. The new model PF9 Luger is a little heavier then the P11 9 mm. The preference should be what feels good in your hand, that is how you decide.![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
fully loaded with a extra mag. Something you can't do with the others if you wear shorts with no belt. You'll won't have to worry about your shorts dropping to meet your ankles when walking, if you know what I mean.
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Now, if you want a handgun in a .380 that can take 6,000 plus rounds problem free and very accurate out of the box? I found that Sig .380 is outstanding, it's a little heavier in weight then Kel-Tec P3AT. The new model PF9 Luger is a little heavier then the P11 9 mm. The preference should be what feels good in your hand, that is how you decide.
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Seems logical
Thanx for the recommendation of the sig .380. It looks like it would be more accurate and easier to control. The prices vary on this thing everywhere I look, and I don't want to get took like a shnook on a hook. Can't tolerate the mag release location either . . . At 6'0" and 122 lbs., my shorts are falling down already! lol . . . I held the P11 in my hand, and it felt ok since I have long piano fingers. Still too heavy for my pussy arm. After some more thought, I'm thinking the P3AT is what I was looking for all along. I'll have to wait until 2007 for the chrome and green stock. There has got to be something that you can do to better handle this thing. I've heard of a Handall Jr. grip? As far as any recoil goes, I'm just going to have to learn how to fire it. There are enough red necks in the area that could help me out. lol I'm going to trust Kel-Tec and go with the P3AT 2006 model, I hope they got the extractor thing solved. -peace-
I daily carry a 2G P3AT and have close to 1,000 rounds through it. It has been flawless since day 1 and becasue of its size, I can carry it daily no matter the season. The Sig is nice but for the size and price, you could buy a Kahr PM9, which is probably close in weight and carries a better round.
I would advise you to wait on the PF9 as I would caution you again buying any gun makers first run gun. IMHO you are better waiting for it to be released and see if there are any bugs that still need working out. I found this out the hard way when Kahr released their P40 years ago. BTW, I also carry a PM9 and it too has been 100% flawless.
If you want a CCW gun and something that you can afford to shoot and even more important carry ALL THE TIME then you can't go wrong with a P3AT, especially with the hard chromed slide. A Sig or any other gun that cost more does not necessarily make it better. And a larger gun that can't be carried all the time is not worth anything if it is somewhere else when you need it. I feel quite comfortable with my AT in my pocket for daily carry especially when it is close to 100 out with a heat index much higher.
The first rule of a gunfight is having a gun.
I would advise you to wait on the PF9 as I would caution you again buying any gun makers first run gun. IMHO you are better waiting for it to be released and see if there are any bugs that still need working out. I found this out the hard way when Kahr released their P40 years ago. BTW, I also carry a PM9 and it too has been 100% flawless.
If you want a CCW gun and something that you can afford to shoot and even more important carry ALL THE TIME then you can't go wrong with a P3AT, especially with the hard chromed slide. A Sig or any other gun that cost more does not necessarily make it better. And a larger gun that can't be carried all the time is not worth anything if it is somewhere else when you need it. I feel quite comfortable with my AT in my pocket for daily carry especially when it is close to 100 out with a heat index much higher.
The first rule of a gunfight is having a gun.
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Norfdet, you have me convinced with the P3AT. I'm going to get one real soon, because this is my new thing to pass this winter. I tried the Russian dating thing last time, so I'm ready to fire some real rounds for once. I was just thinking why I would get a 9mm too. Why not go for something like a Kahr micro instead? The people at G Mountain haven't the slightest idea about the Kel-Tecs. People in Wisconsin go for bigger firearms since we haven't any CC option anyway. They all try to talk me into the heavy .45s thinking I'm going to be an Olympic shooter. - The only thing I don't care for is that the P3AT doesn't lock open after the last round. I love where the mag release is though. My only decisions I'm having trouble making is 1. What's the best bullet to use 2. Fluff & Buff? I wish Krome-Tec had the chrome available already, instead of dragging their feet. They should stop answering my emails so fast and get some work done. Southerners. GO PACKERS
You should try this web-site;
http://www.ktrange.com once you are registered as a member, take a look at the wet-pack testing and there is a whole section on the P3AT.
you will find ALOT of useful information there about everything kel-tec.
The best round for the AT is a subjective one. I prefer and carry the Remington Golden Saber 102gr in .380. I have seen some interesting test with the new Cor-Bon DPX round in .380 and my switch to that. As far as a F&B on the pistol, I would get one preferably a hard chromed one, take it to the range and shoot it. Then decide if anything additional needs to be done. I would suggest that you order some magazine finger rest from Bersa firearms to replace the buttplate on the supplied kel-tec magazine. This make the magazine look much like a walther ppk in that you can grasp more of the pistol with the "hook" on the bottom of the magazine.
Regarding Kahr pistols, I occasionally carry a PM9 and it too has been 100% flawless since day 1. Although a bit more money, both are fine pistols.
I agree that an internal slide stop on the AT would have been a nice feature but I think it was omitted to save space.
Good luck on your decision.
http://www.ktrange.com once you are registered as a member, take a look at the wet-pack testing and there is a whole section on the P3AT.
you will find ALOT of useful information there about everything kel-tec.
The best round for the AT is a subjective one. I prefer and carry the Remington Golden Saber 102gr in .380. I have seen some interesting test with the new Cor-Bon DPX round in .380 and my switch to that. As far as a F&B on the pistol, I would get one preferably a hard chromed one, take it to the range and shoot it. Then decide if anything additional needs to be done. I would suggest that you order some magazine finger rest from Bersa firearms to replace the buttplate on the supplied kel-tec magazine. This make the magazine look much like a walther ppk in that you can grasp more of the pistol with the "hook" on the bottom of the magazine.
Regarding Kahr pistols, I occasionally carry a PM9 and it too has been 100% flawless since day 1. Although a bit more money, both are fine pistols.
I agree that an internal slide stop on the AT would have been a nice feature but I think it was omitted to save space.
Good luck on your decision.