7.62x39 Shortage
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7.62x39 Shortage
Just to let you guys know, there is a legitimate shortage of 7.62x39 at this time. I've been told that Silver Bear and Brown Bear production (which is made at the Barnaul plant) is all going to a Russian Military contract and foreign military sales. This will probably last until the end of December. Wolf, which I buy direct, has been trying to keep up with the demand but has not raised their prices at this time. We still have not received as much as we would like as far as 7.62x39 but it's still fairly easy to get. Most likely you will see the prices rising as the supply dwindles. So far, we've been able to maintain our prices. If anybody has been around 7.62x39 and used it over the years, the price goes up and the price goes down. Also, Wolf ammo is still up to military standards. It's just that they decided to continue on with their commercial venture instead of going after the military contracts. Of course all this is rumor and just what I've been told. Bill G
It looks like Barnaul Arsenal which is the Russian manufacturer of Brown Bear and Silver Bear ammo has decided that they can make a quick buck selling to the Syrians. I hope this ammo doesn't find its way across the border into Iraqi terrorists hands because, if it does we are going to see some dead Americans.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20050929/41548890.htmlRussia to supply Syria with ammunition, train officers
29/09/2005 17:47
MOSCOW, September 29 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will provide Syria with small arms ammunition and allow more Syrian students to study at Russian defense ministry universities, a ministry spokesman said Thursday.
Syrian Chief of Staff General Ali Habib, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov, and Chief of Staff Yury Baluyevsky reached this agreement during talks in Moscow September 27-28, the source said.
"[The parties] agreed on small supplies of ammunition for small arms to Syria and doubling the number of Syrian students in Russian higher education institutions under the Ministry of Defense. There are about 30 Syrian officers studying in Russia now," the spokesman said.
The source also said the parties had not signed any high-level agreements during the talks.
While in Russia, the Syrian general visited the Instrument Production Design Bureau in Tula (about 200 km south of Moscow), which has developed and produced 130 types of arms and military equipment for the Russian armed forces.
Sounds like Syria is expecting a fight. debka.com had talk of 30 syrian casualties, and 11 US casualties... a few days ago.
No comfirmation from EITHER side.
The UN wants to "talk" to Bashirs Brother in Law...about the leboneese assanation...since when does the UN give a a tart about LEADanon ?
Thanks for the info, and hi from my evil twin brother, he used to live in virginny and buy/sell at your fine establishment.
No comfirmation from EITHER side.
The UN wants to "talk" to Bashirs Brother in Law...about the leboneese assanation...since when does the UN give a a tart about LEADanon ?
Thanks for the info, and hi from my evil twin brother, he used to live in virginny and buy/sell at your fine establishment.
Nope. And to fan the flames, DEBKA claims Iran will test it's bomb before march 20. IS IT TRUE? We shall see...
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=1696
Tehran plans a nuclear weapons test before March 20, 2006 – the Iranian New Year, moves Shahab-3 missiles within striking range of Israel
January 22, 2006, 9:30 AM (GMT+02:00)
Reporting this, the dissident Foundation for Democracy in Iran, a US-based watch group, cites sources in the US and Iran. The FDI adds from Iran: on June 16, the high command of the Revolutionary Guards Air Force ordered Shahab-3 missile units to move mobile launchers every 24 hours instead of weekly. This is in view of a potential pre-emptive strike by the US or Israel.
Advance Shahab-3 units have been positioned in Kermanshah and Hamad within striking distance of Israel, reserve launchers moved to Esfahan and Fars.
The missile units were told to change positions “in a radius of 30-35 kilometers” and only at night.
DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources add: FDI reporting has a reputation for credibility. Western and Israeli intelligence have known for more than six months that Iran’s nuclear program has reached the capability of being able to carry out a nuclear explosion, albeit underground. It would probably be staged in a desert or mountain region and activated by a distant control center. Tehran would aim at confronting the Americans, Europeans and Israelis with an irreversible situation.
At the same time, an explosion of this sort would indicate that Iran is not yet able to produce a nuclear bomb that can be delivered by airplane or a warhead adapted to a missile. The stage Iran has reached is comparable to Pakistan’s when it conducted its first nuclear tests in the nineties and North Korea’s in 2001. All the same, an Iranian underground nuclear blast, which will most probably be attempted on March 22, would turn around the strategic position of all the parties concerned and the Middle East as whole.
The question now is: will the United States, Israel or both deliver a pre-emptive strike ahead of the Iranian underground test - or later? Or will Washington alternatively use the event to bring the UN Security Council round to economic sanctions? Tehran is already organizing to withstand economic penalties. For Israel, the timing is getting tight in view of its general election on March 28. Acting prime minister Ehud Olmert must take into account that a ruling party which allows an Iranian nuclear explosion to take place six days before the poll would draw painful punishment from the voter.
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=1696
Tehran plans a nuclear weapons test before March 20, 2006 – the Iranian New Year, moves Shahab-3 missiles within striking range of Israel
January 22, 2006, 9:30 AM (GMT+02:00)
Reporting this, the dissident Foundation for Democracy in Iran, a US-based watch group, cites sources in the US and Iran. The FDI adds from Iran: on June 16, the high command of the Revolutionary Guards Air Force ordered Shahab-3 missile units to move mobile launchers every 24 hours instead of weekly. This is in view of a potential pre-emptive strike by the US or Israel.
Advance Shahab-3 units have been positioned in Kermanshah and Hamad within striking distance of Israel, reserve launchers moved to Esfahan and Fars.
The missile units were told to change positions “in a radius of 30-35 kilometers” and only at night.
DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources add: FDI reporting has a reputation for credibility. Western and Israeli intelligence have known for more than six months that Iran’s nuclear program has reached the capability of being able to carry out a nuclear explosion, albeit underground. It would probably be staged in a desert or mountain region and activated by a distant control center. Tehran would aim at confronting the Americans, Europeans and Israelis with an irreversible situation.
At the same time, an explosion of this sort would indicate that Iran is not yet able to produce a nuclear bomb that can be delivered by airplane or a warhead adapted to a missile. The stage Iran has reached is comparable to Pakistan’s when it conducted its first nuclear tests in the nineties and North Korea’s in 2001. All the same, an Iranian underground nuclear blast, which will most probably be attempted on March 22, would turn around the strategic position of all the parties concerned and the Middle East as whole.
The question now is: will the United States, Israel or both deliver a pre-emptive strike ahead of the Iranian underground test - or later? Or will Washington alternatively use the event to bring the UN Security Council round to economic sanctions? Tehran is already organizing to withstand economic penalties. For Israel, the timing is getting tight in view of its general election on March 28. Acting prime minister Ehud Olmert must take into account that a ruling party which allows an Iranian nuclear explosion to take place six days before the poll would draw painful punishment from the voter.
With the shortage of 7,62x39 ammo with no end in sight I'm hearing rumors from good sources that we may see a $200 price tag for a 1,000rd case by the end of '06. Right now its averaging $3 to $5 a box of 20rds and averaging $140 to $175 a 1,000rd case.
Another rumor has it that all ammo is going up across the board either double or tripple in prices soon too. With the scrap metals at an all time high i think its possible. We went from cheap affordable ammo by the case to expensvie ammo by the box. We really need china ban lifted so we can see affordable quality ammo again. We had it great for a few decades and right now were almost in the early to mid 70's again when the chances of finding surplus ammo was slim to none and when we did find some the prices were much higher too.
The future doesn't look to be so great.
Another rumor has it that all ammo is going up across the board either double or tripple in prices soon too. With the scrap metals at an all time high i think its possible. We went from cheap affordable ammo by the case to expensvie ammo by the box. We really need china ban lifted so we can see affordable quality ammo again. We had it great for a few decades and right now were almost in the early to mid 70's again when the chances of finding surplus ammo was slim to none and when we did find some the prices were much higher too.
The future doesn't look to be so great.
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7.62x39 Ammo is Back! 6/21/06
Well, we should have 4 pallets of 7.62x39 Wolf ammo in by tomorrow afternoon, both HP and FMJ. It will go quickly so if you want any, might want to order it now! Thanks for your patience.